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		<title>By: Jennifer Mattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Mattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Keep in mind that an English degree won&#039;t land you higher paying freelance writing jobs on its own. If you want to write books it might mean more, but for freelancing buyers pay the most for specialty knowledge rather than the ability to write well. A decent writer with an in-demand specialty background (business, finance, etc.) and strong marketing skills will almost always beat out someone who emphasizes the writing first and foremost. So I wouldn&#039;t put a huge amount of emphasis on your English degree. Find out where you have that specialty knowledge in some in-demand niche, and make that your main marketing focus. Let the degree be a supplement to that. By all means mention it. Just focus on showing you can write about topics the client can&#039;t, and ones those $5 article writers can&#039;t cover adequately, and you&#039;ll have a better shot at getting the higher paying work. 

2. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; bad to accept lower paying work starting out. But here&#039;s the thing. If you do that thinking those low paying gigs are going to lead to higher paying gigs, the vast majority of the time you&#039;ll be wrong. Low paying clients beget more low paying clients. And what you write for them won&#039;t be on par with what higher paying clients expect to see in a portfolio (as in seeing you&#039;ve written for comparable markets / clients). There are some people who are exceptions, but it&#039;s never smart to assume you&#039;ll be an exception to the rule. If you need the portfolio pieces badly, &lt;a href=&quot;http://allfreelancewriting.com/2009/03/05/freelancing/marketing-pr/how-to-build-a-web-writing-portfolio-even-if-you-have-no-experience/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read this&lt;/a&gt; for some ideas. One is to only write for free or low pay for well-respected nonprofits. If you write for cheap webmasters, you tell future clients you don&#039;t value yourself enough to charge professional rates (and undercharging is actually a huge turn-off for many people with bigger budgets). Instead, do a free piece or two for a nonprofit. Not only do you get a more respectable portfolio piece but you also get the PR benefits. So choose a cause you can really get behind and see if there&#039;s a local branch that could use your skills. 

3. As for getting your name out there, low paying gigs isn&#039;t the way to do that. All that does is associate your name with those low-paying markets, often saturated with sub-par work. You don&#039;t want people lumping you in with that group. Are there good writers working for content mills for example? Sure. But until they stop associating themselves professionally with all of the bad apples there, most will struggle to consistently land high paying jobs (and if they could, there would no longer be a reason to write for those mills because their schedules would be filled with better options). Instead get a professional website set up and work hard to optimize it for keyword phrases potential clients would search for when hiring a writer like you. For example, I focused on things like &quot;business writer&quot; and &quot;professional business writer.&quot; Then get your name out there in other ways. Join forums and social networks where your target market is. Start a niche blog in your specialty area. Guest post on other specialized blogs. Comment on other blogs. Release a short free e-book, report, or white paper to create some buzz and drive purchases. There&#039;s a lot you can do. Here&#039;s an article with &lt;a href=&quot;http://allfreelancewriting.com/2010/01/25/freelancing/marketing-pr/30-ways-to-build-your-writer-platform/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;30 platform-building ideas&lt;/a&gt; to give you some more options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Keep in mind that an English degree won&#8217;t land you higher paying freelance writing jobs on its own. If you want to write books it might mean more, but for freelancing buyers pay the most for specialty knowledge rather than the ability to write well. A decent writer with an in-demand specialty background (business, finance, etc.) and strong marketing skills will almost always beat out someone who emphasizes the writing first and foremost. So I wouldn&#8217;t put a huge amount of emphasis on your English degree. Find out where you have that specialty knowledge in some in-demand niche, and make that your main marketing focus. Let the degree be a supplement to that. By all means mention it. Just focus on showing you can write about topics the client can&#8217;t, and ones those $5 article writers can&#8217;t cover adequately, and you&#8217;ll have a better shot at getting the higher paying work. </p>
<p>2. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s <em>always</em> bad to accept lower paying work starting out. But here&#8217;s the thing. If you do that thinking those low paying gigs are going to lead to higher paying gigs, the vast majority of the time you&#8217;ll be wrong. Low paying clients beget more low paying clients. And what you write for them won&#8217;t be on par with what higher paying clients expect to see in a portfolio (as in seeing you&#8217;ve written for comparable markets / clients). There are some people who are exceptions, but it&#8217;s never smart to assume you&#8217;ll be an exception to the rule. If you need the portfolio pieces badly, <a href="http://allfreelancewriting.com/2009/03/05/freelancing/marketing-pr/how-to-build-a-web-writing-portfolio-even-if-you-have-no-experience/" rel="nofollow">read this</a> for some ideas. One is to only write for free or low pay for well-respected nonprofits. If you write for cheap webmasters, you tell future clients you don&#8217;t value yourself enough to charge professional rates (and undercharging is actually a huge turn-off for many people with bigger budgets). Instead, do a free piece or two for a nonprofit. Not only do you get a more respectable portfolio piece but you also get the PR benefits. So choose a cause you can really get behind and see if there&#8217;s a local branch that could use your skills. </p>
<p>3. As for getting your name out there, low paying gigs isn&#8217;t the way to do that. All that does is associate your name with those low-paying markets, often saturated with sub-par work. You don&#8217;t want people lumping you in with that group. Are there good writers working for content mills for example? Sure. But until they stop associating themselves professionally with all of the bad apples there, most will struggle to consistently land high paying jobs (and if they could, there would no longer be a reason to write for those mills because their schedules would be filled with better options). Instead get a professional website set up and work hard to optimize it for keyword phrases potential clients would search for when hiring a writer like you. For example, I focused on things like &#8220;business writer&#8221; and &#8220;professional business writer.&#8221; Then get your name out there in other ways. Join forums and social networks where your target market is. Start a niche blog in your specialty area. Guest post on other specialized blogs. Comment on other blogs. Release a short free e-book, report, or white paper to create some buzz and drive purchases. There&#8217;s a lot you can do. Here&#8217;s an article with <a href="http://allfreelancewriting.com/2010/01/25/freelancing/marketing-pr/30-ways-to-build-your-writer-platform/" rel="nofollow">30 platform-building ideas</a> to give you some more options.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer, I&#039;ve been blogging for a while now and I am glad to see posts like yours.  I&#039;ve been blogging mostly for myself, as a hobby, but finally decided to put my English degree to use and start working as a freelance writer.  Many jobs I&#039;ve looked at want to pay in the $5-10 per article range like you mentioned.  I consider myself a great writer and I&#039;ve got the degree to back that up but what I don&#039;t have is a presence on the internet.  Do you think it&#039;s bad for a new writer to accept less in order to get started and get his name out there?  Thanks in advance for any advice/opinions you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, I&#8217;ve been blogging for a while now and I am glad to see posts like yours.  I&#8217;ve been blogging mostly for myself, as a hobby, but finally decided to put my English degree to use and start working as a freelance writer.  Many jobs I&#8217;ve looked at want to pay in the $5-10 per article range like you mentioned.  I consider myself a great writer and I&#8217;ve got the degree to back that up but what I don&#8217;t have is a presence on the internet.  Do you think it&#8217;s bad for a new writer to accept less in order to get started and get his name out there?  Thanks in advance for any advice/opinions you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful post! I know you made it a while ago, but it&#039;s very important - I cannot tell you how appalled I was when someone suggested I write for textbroker.com today... I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time. I hope everyone in search of a freelance writer gets the chance to read this! Thank you for writing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful post! I know you made it a while ago, but it&#8217;s very important &#8211; I cannot tell you how appalled I was when someone suggested I write for textbroker.com today&#8230; I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time. I hope everyone in search of a freelance writer gets the chance to read this! Thank you for writing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Mattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Mattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, unfortunately with freelance writing there&#039;s really no such thing as a &quot;general idea of what to expect.&quot; Things vary wildly depending on exactly what you want. For example, you&#039;ll find plenty of bloggers happy to write for $5-15 per post, but they probably aren&#039;t journalists -- just Web content writers (and at those rates rarely specialists). If you wanted someone active in the political scene who could blog from an insider&#039;s view, and they&#039;ve been a political journalist for years, then you&#039;re going to pay much, much more (could be a few hundred per post, could be $.50 per word, $1.00 per words -- it all depends on who they are and what they bring to the table). The best thing you could do as a prospective client is simply understand that going in (don&#039;t expect top notch, well-researched and detailed work at $15 for example -- it&#039;s not going to happen). You need to set a pay level you&#039;re comfortable with budget-wise and then set your hiring expectations based on that. You could pick up a copy of Writer&#039;s Market perhaps. Look through some political publications, online and off, and see what rates they&#039;re paying for pros in the niche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, unfortunately with freelance writing there&#8217;s really no such thing as a &#8220;general idea of what to expect.&#8221; Things vary wildly depending on exactly what you want. For example, you&#8217;ll find plenty of bloggers happy to write for $5-15 per post, but they probably aren&#8217;t journalists &#8212; just Web content writers (and at those rates rarely specialists). If you wanted someone active in the political scene who could blog from an insider&#8217;s view, and they&#8217;ve been a political journalist for years, then you&#8217;re going to pay much, much more (could be a few hundred per post, could be $.50 per word, $1.00 per words &#8212; it all depends on who they are and what they bring to the table). The best thing you could do as a prospective client is simply understand that going in (don&#8217;t expect top notch, well-researched and detailed work at $15 for example &#8212; it&#8217;s not going to happen). You need to set a pay level you&#8217;re comfortable with budget-wise and then set your hiring expectations based on that. You could pick up a copy of Writer&#8217;s Market perhaps. Look through some political publications, online and off, and see what rates they&#8217;re paying for pros in the niche.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Freysinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Freysinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have hopes and dreams of starting a political blog.  I would love to hire freelance writers for occaisonal articles, but I have no idea what this costs or how to go about finding the journalists.  I will continue to read through this site, but would be thrilled with a general idea of what to expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have hopes and dreams of starting a political blog.  I would love to hire freelance writers for occaisonal articles, but I have no idea what this costs or how to go about finding the journalists.  I will continue to read through this site, but would be thrilled with a general idea of what to expect.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I have turned down a large amount of work for the reasons you mention.

Freelance writers are professionals and should think of writing as a business; and also value themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I have turned down a large amount of work for the reasons you mention.</p>
<p>Freelance writers are professionals and should think of writing as a business; and also value themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: How Not to Hire Freelance Writers : workingwritersandbloggers.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Not to Hire Freelance Writers : workingwritersandbloggers.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at All Freelance Writing has a fabulous post up about how not to hire freelance writers. It sums up everything writers have encountered with unreasonable ads and expectations. Do check it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at All Freelance Writing has a fabulous post up about how not to hire freelance writers. It sums up everything writers have encountered with unreasonable ads and expectations. Do check it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Mattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Mattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to pop in and say I&#039;m glad to see so many people agree (although I may become one of the most hated among the various client markets if you actually send them here lol). That&#039;s okay though. 

Interestingly, I didn&#039;t know when I wrote this that it was going to be such a timely issue. I found out after the fact at least two other big blogs in the niche talked about similar issues this week. Apparently I&#039;m far from the only one fed up by the demands in ads these days. Thankfully I don&#039;t have to deal with things like this with my own clients, but I truly feel for those who do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to pop in and say I&#8217;m glad to see so many people agree (although I may become one of the most hated among the various client markets if you actually send them here lol). That&#8217;s okay though. </p>
<p>Interestingly, I didn&#8217;t know when I wrote this that it was going to be such a timely issue. I found out after the fact at least two other big blogs in the niche talked about similar issues this week. Apparently I&#8217;m far from the only one fed up by the demands in ads these days. Thankfully I don&#8217;t have to deal with things like this with my own clients, but I truly feel for those who do!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Amoia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Amoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant article, Jennifer.

Perhaps freelancers should start to ask for credit scores from prospective clients? As a sample from them that they will pay the future invoice...:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant article, Jennifer.</p>
<p>Perhaps freelancers should start to ask for credit scores from prospective clients? As a sample from them that they will pay the future invoice&#8230;:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Writing Roundup, July 2 &#171; Jen&#8217;s Writing Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writing Roundup, July 2 &#171; Jen&#8217;s Writing Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Not to Hire Freelance Writers and Bloggers Jennifer Mattern weighs in on some further practices that make the hiring process a bit unwieldy for the average freelancer. In particular, the idea of writing a custom sample can be a bit much. The life of a freelancer is spent on so many different non-writing tasks, that our writing time really needs to be reserved for billable projects, not spec work. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How Not to Hire Freelance Writers and Bloggers Jennifer Mattern weighs in on some further practices that make the hiring process a bit unwieldy for the average freelancer. In particular, the idea of writing a custom sample can be a bit much. The life of a freelancer is spent on so many different non-writing tasks, that our writing time really needs to be reserved for billable projects, not spec work. [...]</p>
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