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		<title>By: My Love Affair with Elance &#124; All Freelance Writing</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Love Affair with Elance &#124; All Freelance Writing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tell you guys. The name of my secret lover? Elance. I know, I know, it’s weird. Before I did the Elance experiment for AFW, I never really considered Elance a real place to work. Through the experiment, Elance and I had [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tell you guys. The name of my secret lover? Elance. I know, I know, it’s weird. Before I did the Elance experiment for AFW, I never really considered Elance a real place to work. Through the experiment, Elance and I had [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi Patrice Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi Patrice Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative article! I totally agree with you that Elance is a great place to market your services. In fact, after 700+ projects awarded it is still one of my favorite places to get new clients. In the 10 years I have been using Elance, I have found that the  quality of buyers and providers is extremely high if you know where to look. You also have to do a bit of homework and put your best foot forward to find the best projects. 

When I submit proposals, I am very selective with the buyers that I select and look hard at their online Elance reputations. I also bid above the range for most projects.  I must admit however that there may be times when lowballing is necessary (to get your first project, establish your reputation, or simply to get a repeat project), however I believe that smart competitive bidding is the KEY to being a success on and off Elance. 

For instance, before I submit an Elance proposal, I review the buyer&#039;s feedback and make sure that they have a solid reputation. In addition, I always write individualized proposals and clearly state my qualifications on what makes me the best candidate.  By doing this, I have been successful and recommend Elance to newbies and experienced freelancers too as it is truly the leading marketplace for online talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative article! I totally agree with you that Elance is a great place to market your services. In fact, after 700+ projects awarded it is still one of my favorite places to get new clients. In the 10 years I have been using Elance, I have found that the  quality of buyers and providers is extremely high if you know where to look. You also have to do a bit of homework and put your best foot forward to find the best projects. </p>
<p>When I submit proposals, I am very selective with the buyers that I select and look hard at their online Elance reputations. I also bid above the range for most projects.  I must admit however that there may be times when lowballing is necessary (to get your first project, establish your reputation, or simply to get a repeat project), however I believe that smart competitive bidding is the KEY to being a success on and off Elance. </p>
<p>For instance, before I submit an Elance proposal, I review the buyer&#8217;s feedback and make sure that they have a solid reputation. In addition, I always write individualized proposals and clearly state my qualifications on what makes me the best candidate.  By doing this, I have been successful and recommend Elance to newbies and experienced freelancers too as it is truly the leading marketplace for online talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being fairly new to the freelancing world (okay, so new they just spanked me), I just adore Elance.  It&#039;s strictly a part time gig for me now - as mentioned above the bills need to be paid and the regular paycheques work for that.  

I signed up on Elance last week and have been awarded two projects.  One was low pay, but got me some experience with a particular style of article.  The other is better pay and much more exciting.  When bidding, I also stayed within my realm of professional expertise and tried to pitch myself above and beyond the other bidders.  I have received a request for more samples from another bid as well, which I&#039;m just itching to get.  

All things being said, Elance has been a treat for me and I&#039;m looking forward to the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being fairly new to the freelancing world (okay, so new they just spanked me), I just adore Elance.  It&#8217;s strictly a part time gig for me now &#8211; as mentioned above the bills need to be paid and the regular paycheques work for that.  </p>
<p>I signed up on Elance last week and have been awarded two projects.  One was low pay, but got me some experience with a particular style of article.  The other is better pay and much more exciting.  When bidding, I also stayed within my realm of professional expertise and tried to pitch myself above and beyond the other bidders.  I have received a request for more samples from another bid as well, which I&#8217;m just itching to get.  </p>
<p>All things being said, Elance has been a treat for me and I&#8217;m looking forward to the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I use Elance for fill-in work. It&#039;s nice to be able to jump on and work at filling my schedule when things are light and I like the escrow option. 

In terms of the &#039;connects&#039;, once you use a connect to reach out and win a project, either the provider or the buyer can create new projects in the future without using a new one. So, you could continue to work with existing Elance contacts without a paid membership.

Cheers,
Dana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I use Elance for fill-in work. It&#8217;s nice to be able to jump on and work at filling my schedule when things are light and I like the escrow option. </p>
<p>In terms of the &#8216;connects&#8217;, once you use a connect to reach out and win a project, either the provider or the buyer can create new projects in the future without using a new one. So, you could continue to work with existing Elance contacts without a paid membership.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dana</p>
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		<title>By: Salma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yolander,

Good article!

You said: &quot;I only changed the last paragraph to individualize it for each job.&quot;

I actually do the opposite; put that personalized part right at the top because that&#039;s the first thing most clients want to see.

It works too since I have an award ratio of 27% at Elance. Just a small tip :) You can read some of other elance success tips here: http://wordpl.net/index.php/2009/11/how-to-build-an-online-business-with-elance/

Cheers,
Salma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yolander,</p>
<p>Good article!</p>
<p>You said: &#8220;I only changed the last paragraph to individualize it for each job.&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually do the opposite; put that personalized part right at the top because that&#8217;s the first thing most clients want to see.</p>
<p>It works too since I have an award ratio of 27% at Elance. Just a small tip :) You can read some of other elance success tips here: <a href="http://wordpl.net/index.php/2009/11/how-to-build-an-online-business-with-elance/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpl.net/index.php/2009/11/how-to-build-an-online-business-with-elance/</a></p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Salma</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Mattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Mattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Laura.

I don&#039;t personally have a problem with bidding sites even though I haven&#039;t used them in years. When I first decided to wise up and kick content mills to the curb I tried a couple of these types of sites. My rule was simple and effective -- set your regular rates and bid them. I&#039;ve repeatedly tried to explain why service providers should never market solely on price. It&#039;s as true in bidding as in anything else. Low-priced writers are only your competition if you allow them to be. It&#039;s also each writer&#039;s responsibility to have other ways to demonstrate value to prospective clients. I can tell you from experience that clients on these sites aren&#039;t always looking for the lowest price. There are plenty who are looking for the most qualified person. If you can show them that person is you through your bid info then you don&#039;t have to settle for less than your time is worth anywhere else to land these gigs.

That said, I&#039;ve found these sites are a better supplemental, rather than primary, income source. While there are good jobs to be found, the process of digging through the garbage gigs to find them can waste time better spent elsewhere if you&#039;re not careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Laura.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t personally have a problem with bidding sites even though I haven&#8217;t used them in years. When I first decided to wise up and kick content mills to the curb I tried a couple of these types of sites. My rule was simple and effective &#8212; set your regular rates and bid them. I&#8217;ve repeatedly tried to explain why service providers should never market solely on price. It&#8217;s as true in bidding as in anything else. Low-priced writers are only your competition if you allow them to be. It&#8217;s also each writer&#8217;s responsibility to have other ways to demonstrate value to prospective clients. I can tell you from experience that clients on these sites aren&#8217;t always looking for the lowest price. There are plenty who are looking for the most qualified person. If you can show them that person is you through your bid info then you don&#8217;t have to settle for less than your time is worth anywhere else to land these gigs.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ve found these sites are a better supplemental, rather than primary, income source. While there are good jobs to be found, the process of digging through the garbage gigs to find them can waste time better spent elsewhere if you&#8217;re not careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I provide freelance book editing, ghostwriting (nonfiction books exclusively) and book proposal development, and even though I have a well-established business I have found eLance to be a good source of projects (I can&#039;t speak to the article-writing projects, as I don&#039;t provide those services.) I average about $65 per hour for my substantive line-editing services and $85 per hour for book proposals (I have not obtained any ghostwriting projects through eLance but have turned several ghostwriting bids into book proposal projects instead.) 

My experience has been that customers on eLance require a LOT of education about the publishing industry and how much it costs to work with an experienced, quality writer. A statistic you might find helpful: I have tracked all my bids and discovered that more than 40% of the jobs I bid on were never awarded to any provider on the eLance site - however, I know from my own experience that a large percentage of projects I obtained, which were originally listed on the eLance site, were eventually awarded to me offsite when the client contacted me directly and changed the parameters of the project. 

Obviously, there are many projects listed on eLance with ridiculously low budgets and there will always be &quot;writers&quot; willing to accept those projects and low fees. To be successful and ensure you receive the rate you are worth, you need to set yourself apart from the lowball bidders/unqualified writers and be selective of the projects you bid on - avoid listings that state &quot;this is an easy project&quot; (translation: &quot;I have no respect for writers or the writing process&quot;) or outline how much the writer will be paid and when the project must be submitted. A professional writer is the one to tell the client how much the fee is and when the project can be scheduled on his or her calendar. Take the time to bid on projects that you will enjoy working on and will be proud to have in your portfolio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I provide freelance book editing, ghostwriting (nonfiction books exclusively) and book proposal development, and even though I have a well-established business I have found eLance to be a good source of projects (I can&#8217;t speak to the article-writing projects, as I don&#8217;t provide those services.) I average about $65 per hour for my substantive line-editing services and $85 per hour for book proposals (I have not obtained any ghostwriting projects through eLance but have turned several ghostwriting bids into book proposal projects instead.) </p>
<p>My experience has been that customers on eLance require a LOT of education about the publishing industry and how much it costs to work with an experienced, quality writer. A statistic you might find helpful: I have tracked all my bids and discovered that more than 40% of the jobs I bid on were never awarded to any provider on the eLance site &#8211; however, I know from my own experience that a large percentage of projects I obtained, which were originally listed on the eLance site, were eventually awarded to me offsite when the client contacted me directly and changed the parameters of the project. </p>
<p>Obviously, there are many projects listed on eLance with ridiculously low budgets and there will always be &#8220;writers&#8221; willing to accept those projects and low fees. To be successful and ensure you receive the rate you are worth, you need to set yourself apart from the lowball bidders/unqualified writers and be selective of the projects you bid on &#8211; avoid listings that state &#8220;this is an easy project&#8221; (translation: &#8220;I have no respect for writers or the writing process&#8221;) or outline how much the writer will be paid and when the project must be submitted. A professional writer is the one to tell the client how much the fee is and when the project can be scheduled on his or her calendar. Take the time to bid on projects that you will enjoy working on and will be proud to have in your portfolio.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessie Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monday morning when I begin work at my new apartment, I&#039;ll be signing up for Elance. I want to cut my DS time in half at least. By April I&#039;m hoping that I&quot;ll be gaining most of my clients from my networking and platform-building efforts. However, so as not to starve I need to content mill now...Elance is clearly a better option for me right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monday morning when I begin work at my new apartment, I&#8217;ll be signing up for Elance. I want to cut my DS time in half at least. By April I&#8217;m hoping that I&#8221;ll be gaining most of my clients from my networking and platform-building efforts. However, so as not to starve I need to content mill now&#8230;Elance is clearly a better option for me right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Yolander Prinzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yolander Prinzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Thursday, that means a lot. I don&#039;t think my experience is at all indicative of the top rates you can get there, either. I wanted to make sure that I didn&#039;t bid so aggressively that I ended up with a 200 word post about how no one hired me, but I also needed to show a range of rates so that a wide variety of freelancers felt as though their personal needs could be met with the site.  

Thanks Jessie and Carol :-)

Oh, and I forgot to mention that when I started, I had not done any work on Elance and had no feedback and the first 2 gigs I got were in the higher end of my bidding range--so don&#039;t feel like you can&#039;t do it if you are a newbie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Thursday, that means a lot. I don&#8217;t think my experience is at all indicative of the top rates you can get there, either. I wanted to make sure that I didn&#8217;t bid so aggressively that I ended up with a 200 word post about how no one hired me, but I also needed to show a range of rates so that a wide variety of freelancers felt as though their personal needs could be met with the site.  </p>
<p>Thanks Jessie and Carol :-)</p>
<p>Oh, and I forgot to mention that when I started, I had not done any work on Elance and had no feedback and the first 2 gigs I got were in the higher end of my bidding range&#8211;so don&#8217;t feel like you can&#8217;t do it if you are a newbie!</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday Bram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thursday Bram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an incredibly valuable article. There always seem to be arguments going on about whether Elance and similar sites are any good for writers. Those arguments never seem to have any hard numbers, though! Having some numbers from an experienced freelancer will make it a lot easier for other writers to decide for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an incredibly valuable article. There always seem to be arguments going on about whether Elance and similar sites are any good for writers. Those arguments never seem to have any hard numbers, though! Having some numbers from an experienced freelancer will make it a lot easier for other writers to decide for themselves.</p>
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