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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on What time tracking programs do you use?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Great. Let us know what you think of it. <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Kristen on What time tracking programs do you use?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! I'll give it a try -- thank you!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on What time tracking programs do you use?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't currently use time tracking software, but if I did I'd probably use an app rather than software on my laptop. But I just looked around and found one called Office Time -- <a href="http://officetime.net" rel="nofollow">http://officetime.net</a></p>
<p>It's downloadable. They have versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux. You can try it for free for a few weeks before buying. After that, it looks like it's a one-time $47 fee. It seems pretty intuitive, at least from the little while I spent playing with it. Might be worth trying out. <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Kristen on What time tracking programs do you use?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I want to find a good time tracking app to see how many hours per day I actually work vs. advertising/promotive stuff. Right now I'm using Clockodo and it works quite well, but I think I'd prefer something that I can download (instead of using an internet-based program). I know there are a lot of programs out there, but I'm having issues finding one that I love and is downloadable.</p>
<p>These are the "necessities":<br />
   -Reports / pie charts that show where my time went<br />
   -Preferably downloadable / one-time purchase cost OR max $10/month<br />
   -Easy interface</p>
<p>Built-in invoicing systems don't take much of a priority. If anybody can give me some good recommendations, I'm all ears! Thank you!</p>
<p>Kristen</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Johanna on What were your biggest freelance questions as a new writer?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, again, Jenn! You've given me such great advice, I'm very grateful for it <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on Communication Issues with virtual collaboration</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>They receive one completed document from me, regardless of length. They can ask for a round of changes if they have a problem with the material I send. I make those changes. Then they get to make suggestions / requests one more time on the new version they receive. And again I make the edits. (In most cases there either aren't any edit requests or they're fairly minor). After that point, they don't get to request more changes unless they're willing to pay an extra editing fee. </p>
<p>If they want "edits" that are actually a change in scope over the original project, they usually get billed for an entirely new project (or billed for separate edits depending on how big the changes are). You're only required to give what they asked for. If they change their mind about what they want after the initial work is completely, they have to pay for that as the separate project it really is.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Cheryl on Communication Issues with virtual collaboration</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the good tips. When you say you only allow "2 edits" within your advertised rates, how do you define that when your'e editing a long document, with pieces getting added along the way? Would that mean 2 edits again, first page to last?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on Communication Issues with virtual collaboration</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That's what many clients expect. They're hiring you because you're a professional in a specialty area who can do something they can't do, don't want to do, or don't have time to do. You need to be able to work in a way where you can "just handle it" most of the time. </p>
<p>And frankly, some clients just suck at communicating their needs. That's why the initial interviews / questions are so important. Get as much information as possible out of them up front, and it can save a lot of headaches later.  </p>
<p>You're not crazy to be frustrated. It sounds like this is one of those cases where the client wasn't clear enough early on. And changing what they want after the fact is never okay (and should always incur additional fees). That's scope creep. </p>
<p>As for making decisions on your own though, that's a part of being an independent professional. It's a part of our jobs, plain and simple. Sometimes clients will like those decisions. Sometimes they won't. You can minimize endless edit requests by putting a limit on them up front. For example, I only allow 2 edits within my advertised rates. They can't keep nitpicking after that. They can't pull in 5 other people to give feedback and separate edit requests. And if they do want more (which I don't have to provide), they're charged quite a bit for it because I charge my normal copyediting rates (which is basically a 50% increase over their original planned budget). If you don't have a clear policy like that yet, this sounds like a great time to start. <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" /> </p>
<p>Jenn</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Cheryl on Communication Issues with virtual collaboration</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I have a question about communicating with clients when the project is fairly large and requires substantive editing. I'm working on a proposal, so it's not just straight text--there are a lot of headers, formatting, bullet lists, etc. I am working virutally (and communicating via e-mail) because the client is in another state, so we can't meet in person to review drafts on paper, and address any issues line-by-line.<br />
There are areas of the project where I have needed guidance, because the researched material is not mine. That is, I don't quite know how to determine what are the most important things to keep, and which to cut. So for these areas, I have asked for quick notes/comments from the client to help me figure out the order of things or what can be cut, if needed.<br />
The client has not really responded to many of my questions with more than 1-sentence phrases, leaving me to guess. The client seems to have the idea that she's paying me to just "handle it." I work best when we can collaborate and agree on what is being done, because I know that it saves time in the end.<br />
And then it happened: I made a guess as to what to rearrange/cut, and then the client didn't like it, so I had to put it back the way it was, but then after that I still had to re-do the sections because--suddenly--she came up with a completely new idea about what she wanted.<br />
By the way, we had managed to connect by phone a few times, but it didn't result in any clearer understanding. We seemed to be speaking Greek to each other.<br />
Am I crazy to be frustrated about this? Is it normal to have to spend extra time pulling teeth just to get a handle on the client's needs? If I barrel through and just do something, after getting little feedback, only to be met with "this needs more work," is it right to cut off my services and ask for payment after a certain number of hours are spent? (This was a fixed-price job, but I know when I've gone into the red.)</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on Okay, now about these tire kickers?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>No problem. Good luck with it! <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>WriterWendy on Okay, now about these tire kickers?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I like that idea. Thanks again for all of your help!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
WK</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on Okay, now about these tire kickers?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I think that title works just fine. It's probably a bit long for something like a business card, but for your website it should be good. Gets the point across. <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" />   </p>
<p>One of the issues with smaller local businesses is that we often have to spend a lot of time up front educating them about what we can do for them and why they need us to grow their businesses. Landscape companies like to do mailers. So one way to do that might be to do a great mailer of your own for marketing. Show them you can beat their current folks. <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="spSmiley" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>WriterWendy on Okay, now about these tire kickers?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jenn. I think I still want to be known as a solopreneur. I don't want to give the message that I have employees...</p>
<p>On another note, I have heard other freelancers specify what types of writing they do in their titles--but that sounds too cumbersome to me. Do you think I should have include what types of writing I do such as:press release writing, editing, web content marketing, etc., etc. in my title?</p>
<p>Anyhow, what do you think about this title: Freelance Marketing Writer for the Landscape, Lawn Care, Real Estate, and Construction Industries.</p>
<p>Again, thank you, thank you for sharing your knowledge with me!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Wendy Komancheck</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jennifer Mattern on Okay, now about these tire kickers?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I know from experience that real estate companies and developers can be great clients, so first congrats on branching out. <img class="spSmiley" src="http://allfreelancewriting.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="spSmiley" />   I'll do my best to answer your questions. </p>
<p>1. There's nothing to stop you from branching into other niches. The ones you mentioned are in a related niche, so why not? You could even tie them together (I know out here a lot of real estate agents have ties to landscapers because they refer them to their clients before selling a home, or right after buying one). If you just want to dip a toe in a new niche, you could also set up a separate website to promote services to that group. Think of it as targeting different verticals with the same services (like a marketing firm targeting several professional groups, like doctors, lawyers, and accountants). </p>
<p>2. Just stick with what you're doing and keep reaching out. Keep building those relationships, even if you're worried about tirekickers. They might always come back later. Keep in mind, it's actually late in the landscape season. I've already received marketing materials from 4 or 5 landscape and lawn care companies. Their brochures and such are out, hoping to line up clients for early spring. I'd focus on pitching writing related to summer services and even fall clean-up services at this point.</p>
<p>3. Neither option is necessarily better than the other. I've enjoyed working with middlemen clients. I used to prefer it. Now I prefer to get my own clients (more schedule flexibility, more direct client contact, and more freedom and authority to handle a project however I feel is best). Both are good options. Just do what you're more comfortable with, or find a balance between them. </p>
<p>4. If you're targeting a specific industry, I'd incorporate that into your title somehow. And maybe you'll want to go with a "content marketing agency" kind of title with a business name over your own name if you think a company would be more appealing to that market than hiring a solo freelancer. But if "business writer" isn't cutting it for them, I'd tie it more to the marketing side of things -- which small business owners tend to understand. That's what most of the writing for these kinds of companies is for anyway. </p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
<p>Jenn</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        	<title>WriterWendy on Okay, now about these tire kickers?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>A month ago, I worried about being too busy. Now, I'm frustrated that I can't seem to get a steady stream of clients. A month ago, I asked the question on my LI groups (I specialize in landcare: lawn care, landscaping, gardening, etc., etc.) about the need for writers. I got a great response, including some people who were interested. However, nothing panned out, as far as clients go. All of them were tire kickers. I've written two blogs on my site, since then, about why land care businesses need writers, etc., and again, I get a great response, but no takers. Last week, I went to a local garden expo and talk to some landscape companies--but I'm hesitating on calling them back b/c of the tire-kicker syndrome.The landscape/lawn care industry is about to get busy again because of spring. So now, I'm worried that I won't have any work from March 31 - November 30th, which is this industry's busy season. </p>
<p>People in this industry say they need writers, but there doesn't seem to be much follow up....any advice?</p>
<p>On the other hand, since January, I've gotten more business outside of my niche than in it. I'm thinking of expanding my business to include construction companies (I got a gig with one last month to write a press release and some editing), real estate companies, and web companies.</p>
<p>So, again I'm at a cross roads:</p>
<p>1. How do I determine if I should stay in my niche or branch outside of it? Should I be more patient with the tirekickers?<br />
2. How do I get more steady clients?<br />
3. At this point in the business writing industry, is it better to team up with web companies or to try to get individual accounts?<br />
4. And how do I title myself to get more action? Right now, I labeled myself as a "freelance business copywriter" hoping that would cover all of my bases. I would like to specialize in editing, web content writing (including blog writing), and press releases? Am I being too narrow? I need a title that will resonate with my potential clients as well as bring people my way.</p>
<p>Any advice?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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